White Gold Forum Digest 05 Mar 96 05:20:03 -0500 Today's Topics: WhtGld: Potential for Genetic Testing WhtGld: Hudson's "Recipe" WhtGld: Introduction WhtGld: Hudson's "Recipe" WhtGld: Isis Material WhtGld: Isis White Powder Gold / Ethrium / Orme WhtGld: Subscriber Update 03/96 WhtGld: George Merkle This is the White Gold Forum Digest. It is posted by moderator request. Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White To Join: WhiteGold-d-request@zz.com Fort Lauderdale FL USA Gold To Leave: WhiteGold-d-quit@zz.com via midnight!east BBS Forum Moderator: binga@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1996 -=-=- Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 18:57:34 -0500 From: binga@zz.com Subject: WhtGld: Potential for Genetic Testing Subj: Potential for Genetic Testing From: Barry Carter Dear Dennis, You wrote: > I run a computer consulting business. One of our clients is a biotech lab > working on the human genome project. I'd like to approach one of the > scientists and suggest testing ORME material for its' effect on DNA. Is the > material mentioned below suitable for testing in laboratory conditions? Is > there a way of purifying this material? > > > Dennis C. Lee This looks like an excellent opportunity to test Hudson's material and Hudson should be contacted about it. If Hudson will not make his material available for this kind of test, the Acemannan is a good second choice. Hudson says this about it: "The product that is made by Carrington Laboratories, it is called Acemannan, is actually cleared by the AMA and FDA for cancer treatment in animals. It has not been cleared for cancer treatment in humans. However, they are selling more of it than if all the animals in the U.S. had cancer. So what they know is that the aids community has found out about it and is taking the material. When it is injected into the blood stream, which is the way it is administered, there are dramatic increases in white blood cells and T-cells. After injecting Acemannan, which is 90% rhodium, into the blood for a month and a half, the thymus grows by about 40%. The thymus is what produces the T-cells. The thymus grows. If you don't know this, from the age twelve on most people's thymus begins to shrink. They have evaluated aids patients who have died and done biopsies on them and they find the thymus is unusually shrunken. This does increase the size of the thymus dramatically and it is the rhodium that does it." (From Portland workshop tape.) I do not have an address for Carrington Laboratories. Please contact me directly to discuss this further. Barry Carter Blue Mountain Native Forest Alliance Voice 541-523-3357 Fax 541-523-9438 The road to hell is paved with good inventions. -=-=- Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 18:57:59 -0500 From: binga@zz.com Subject: WhtGld: Hudson's "Recipe" Subj: Hudson's "Recipe" From: VicStevens Iron: While you'e not likely to get David Hudson's exact "recipe" for the WGP, he does go into some detail in the trasncript of a radio interview last summer, which has been floating around. If it is not on the Hudson home page, email me at VicStevens@aol.com, and I will forward it to you. -=-=- Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 18:58:44 -0500 From: binga@zz.com Subject: WhtGld: Introduction Subj: Introduction From: Beat Krummenacher Since some time I pursue the events in your forum. With this message I would like to shortly introduce myself. My main interest is alchemy. Since according to David Hudson the white gold should have alchemical dimensions, I am interested in this material. Even if I am of the opinion that up to now the white gold has much less to do with genuine alchemy than the most believe. To it later once more. I am pharmacist and I deal with alchemy in theory and practice now already since soon 20 years. Initially I predominantly worked with plants, because this area offers a good lead-in in alchemy. Soon I however began with the processing of minerals and metals. At the moment my main interest lies in the preparation of the different solvents and/or menstrua of the alchemists. None will get round this central theme, who seriously deals with alchemy. During my study of newer literature about alchemy as well as through the contact with modern alchemists, it has struck me again and again, how little the present alchemists understand theory and practice of the old one. Sure it is not simple to penetrate into the complex area. To it needs patience, perseverance, industrious study of the writings and many experiments in the lab. It is however astonishing, how confused the sights of present alchemists often are. One speculates and philosophizes without being on a sound footing. This may be for the individual of course interesting, only it will not help him. Thus especially today it is important to bring order in the edifice of alchemy. A systematic entrance to alchemy is necessary, should it be understandable in the modern age. Alchemy can scientifically be pursued. With it however I do not say, that alchemy and science are one. For alchemy predominantly deals with the application of certain energies, which are not considered in the present sciences. However these energies nevertheless can experimentally and reproducibly be utilized, if one correctly alchemically works. In this sense alchemy is science. And as each science more simply is understandable for beginners, if one can set up on fundamental axioms, so one of my important requests is the construction of a general axiomatics of alchemy. I take the view, that the mechanisms, which underlie alchemy, can be clearly described. Strictly speaking the terminology of the alchemists of earlier centuries likewise was an experiment to axiomatically record the natural events. The descriptions of the alchemists fundamentally are right, if also they may strangely appear today. The problem is the translation of the old concepts and symbols in concrete materials and processes according to the present nomenclature. The experience shows, that this problem is soluble. I have written a publication, which first treats the general theoretical bases of alchemy. Resting on it the general practice is derived. This leads to processes, according to which spagyric essence of supreme quality can be manufactured. As example I have set the production of spagyric essences from plants in the center of the writing. The spagyric manufacturing processes are discussed, which up to now are known above all in Europe and are utilized there. Since however until today no process exists, which uncompromisingly and completely fulfills both the traditional as well as modern criteria of the preparation of a pharmaceutical product, I have developed new processes, which suffice these conditions. Thus I call spagyric essences manufactured according to my processes complete spagyric. It is interesting from modern view, that complete spagyric essences are producible in the industrial scale. They furthermore are standardized and can analytically be recorded according to modern criteria of pharmacy. I have internationally patented my processes. If any members of the forum would have interest in manufacturing spagyric essences for instance in the USA or to distribute existing essences, so they should get in touch with me. Still much work lies before us. However I am sure, that spagyric essences have a great future ahead. Who is interested, can procure the above mentioned publication both in German or English. In English it is obtainable under the title "Spagyric Tinctures - Tradition, Preparation and Usage by Beat Krummenacher, Archives Press, Box 11218, Boulder, Colorado 80301, 1993." Particulars for the German first edition can be ordered from me via E-Mail. I will sign future contributions to the forum with the code name Lapis. My address: Beat Krummenacher, Taegertschistrasse 34a, CH-3110 Muensingen, Switzerland, Phone / Fax 0041 31 721 78 17, E-Mail 100667.1267@compuserve.com -=-=- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 02:54:45 -0500 From: binga@zz.com Subject: WhtGld: Hudson's "Recipe" Subj: Hudson's "Recipe" From: Bob Zilla Vic: "The Hudson home page" . . . SAY WHAT? If you know about this creature, will you please share the URL with the rest of us? In addition, how about posting the "recipe" to this list? Bob Zilla At 06:57 PM 3/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >Subj: Hudson's "Recipe" >From: VicStevens > >Iron: >While you'e not likely to get David Hudson's exact "recipe" for the WGP, he >does go into some detail in the trasncript of a radio interview last summer, >which has been floating around. If it is not on the Hudson home page, email >me at VicStevens@aol.com, and I will forward it to you. > > -=-=- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 02:53:21 -0500 From: binga@zz.com Subject: WhtGld: Isis Material Subj: Isis Material From: David W. Jones > Subj: Isis Material > From: RasBaruti > > ..., it does work on healing and strengthening the cellular electric > connections and induce lucid/intense dream state in some. I have been doing > testing with it and it has properties that are similar to "scientifically" > created DH material. How much of the Sunshine International Isis White Powder Gold have you injested to induce lucid dreams? ------------------------------------------------------------ David W. Jones | davidj@cyberport.net | Marion, MT USA ------------------------------------------------------------ -=-=- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 02:53:25 -0500 From: binga@zz.com Subject: WhtGld: Isis White Powder Gold / Ethrium / Orme Subj: Isis White Powder Gold / Ethrium / Orme From: simeon Regarding the two following messages: 1) >mmmmmm..... so what ensures this has *anything* to do with Hudson's stuff-= >there is no description of the source either. 2.) >This is not Hudson's stuff....it is a naturally occuring collection of >elements that have some mono-tomic properties. It is under contract from a >native woman in California. Used as healing compund and detoxification by >native elders....it is not the "alchemic" white gold" nor does it proport to >be. >However, it does work on healing and strengthening the cellular electric >connections and induce lucid/intense dream state in some. I have been doing >testing with it and it has properties that are similar to "scientifically" >created DH material. From Simeon and Maia - Crest In The Stone Sacred Inner Mystery School We have been working personally with the naturally occuring powders since 8/95 and have had some very profound experiences. As we are operating a Sacred Inner Mystery School, and use primarily 'source translated' information (differs from what is called channeling, in that the energy-information is given to Maia and then she translates it into our language system with the help of the Inner Earth Illuminari, Thoth Hermes Trismesgistus, otherwise known as Tehuti in ancient times) we have compiled some highly esoteric information from this source on the subject. Following this message I will include some of that info that seems to correlate to the questions I see being asked. We have also had personal contact with all the 'main players' in the scenario with the natural powders. There is some analysis that has been done on the make up of these substances, but from our perspective they all fall somewhat short of indicating anything that can be proved scientifically as it relates to the research David Hudson has done. Our source has indicated that they are indeed related however, and that the principle difference is that the Orme is working on a more electromagnetic level with the rhodium, iridium etc. being the main monoatomic light transducers, while the naturally occuring substance coming from California (some is also being harvested in Utah now too which we haven't much info on yet) has an etheric molecule being called 'iropiya' by Tehuti. He has indicated that this molecule most likely will not be detected by science for some time yet, and that the smaller amounts of the rhodium, iridium etc. are in the exact proportion needed to make the 'bridge' between the physical level of reality and the etheric molecule so that its action could be realized in the body. The naturally occuring powders work thusly more on an etheric diimension of reality. Different individuals are going to have vastly different experiences with these substances, and more will benefit from the Orme than the naturally occuring powders as they are in greater need of the elctromagnetic healing at this time. There will be certain groupings of souls that will gravitate more towards the naturally occuring powders as they are more in need of the etheric level of healing. It is important to understand that all of these substances are very Sacred. They offer the opportunity for spiritual expansion and physical healing - but physical healing does not necessarily indicate spiritual movement. The consciousness that is more readily accesible through these substances is something that must be understood and embraced by the individual inteacting with them, it does not necessarily unfold of it's own accord. We have found however, that there is a greater sense of ease in the spirtual movement provided through these substances. Tehuti refers to this as the 'Grace Factor'. I have already covered some ground that will be covered in the following information, and so will simply go to it at this point. Information on how to reach us directly will appear at the end of this message. We are currently producing a newsletter called Ethrium News, soon to be changed to Prima Matra news which will have much less an esoteric focus than our Doctrine of Sacred Inner Mysteries, Temple Doors. Its objective will to be to bring together a compendium of information from the scientific and spirtual communities to share with users and interested parties in a more common language. The news letter is available for $13.00 annually (produced quarterly). From transmission on 9/2/95 Simeon and Maia: Could you please comment on the difference between the manufactured Orme and the substance naturally occurring in Northern California being called Etherium? Tehuti: The Shasta matrix (defined by Tehuti as a whole region in Northern California) Etherium is a gradient more etheric in nature than Orme. The manufactured type is viable, but transmits less of the "Grace factor" light codes into the body. Simeon and Maia: Would there be another name for Orme more appropriate to its etheric register from the perspective of Chariot of the Sun? Tehuti: Orme is from orma, or transfer of light from the Mother Principle (in alchemy). Also, ormes, which means light revealing itself. I, as the alchemist Thoth, Raismes of Aphra, called the Prima Matra "askasai," which translates in essence to mean free spirit.The Shasta matrix gradient of askasai could also be called Ur-Met, which is ancient Egyptian for "dew of the mountain." Simeon and Maia: Is there any potential of contamination by toxic chemicals in the manufactured Orme? Tehuti: There is always this potential in any manufactured material, however there is high integrity on the part of the current manufacturers. Simeon and Maia: We feel you had stated that taking Orme / Etherium in lithium water would increase its balance in the system. Is this correct? Tehuti:This is so. The lithium allows for a fuller spectrum of Orme / Etherium induction into the holistic body system through elevation of the etheric transfer mechanism. Simeon and Maia: Was there a specific plan by the hierarchical agencies to introduce the Orme / Etherium substances to the planet at this time to assist with the preparations for LP-40 (the ascension)? Tehuti:This is so. It is brought forth under the Craft of the Brazen Serpent ( The Craft Of The Brazen Serpent is an Illumined order on the inner planes which incorporates the wisdom and knowledge of the Master Alchemists of the Ages. Those within the Craft created the "Holy of Holies", or spiritual centers within the most sacred Temples on the planet.) Simeon and Maia:Could you give us specific information as to the way Orme / Etherium is working to realign the light codes and any other dynamics that it may be initiating / enhancing? Tehuti: Each soul has their individual karmic-dharmic energies which they incorporate into the incarnational host body. Just as these energies are dramatically varied, so is the dosage for clearing and accelerating Light in these physical systems. Orme / Etherium sends a signal to the holistic soul-body system to become more self aware. It breaks down restrictive and repetitive patterns within the body-soul's current reality structure from within the walls of the cells.The walls of the cells contain what I, Thoth (Tehuti) call huberis. This is a sticky substance much like cholesterol, yet much more microscopic, and containing an anti-charge to the natural universal plus (+) charge of the electrical human system. It is from the build up of huberis that octum (Octum is the name Tehuti (Thoth Hermes Trismesgistus) gives to the anti-force emitted from matter when it s purity has become violated.) is allowed into the system. Each individual should be muscle-tested (kinesiology) to find their dosage (we would recommend Michaelle Small Wrights book "M.A.P." for an excellent method of testing oneself). In addition, they should test each day before taking a dosage. The huberis build up may change rapidly, perhaps every 24 hours, for it goes through a cycle of renewal. Muscle testing could therefore provide a barometer for when the individual's new growth was just beginning. If one could take the Orme / Etherium at the lowest ebb of the cycle (when the huberis had died and is just beginning to re-grow), this would create a strong self-awareness link into the consciousness of the cells to repel rapid re growth. Because of the disharmony on the planet, these cycles are not as unified among all people as they once were. However, the huberis tends to be in a stronger, more delineated process of cycles at the time of the new moon, causing more unity of these cycles among the masses. Taking Orme / Etherium during this period will intensify the process of light-to-matter transfer. For this reason (depending upon your personal rhythms) you may wish to take less Orme / Etherium during the new moon period (some will find this to be the case during the full moon). As has been stated, this cycle occurs every 24 hours in a reasonably healthy person, but in an ill or diseased body can be disrupted and the new growth often begins before the old is completed. Accurate muscle testing is paramount here. The Orme / Etherium may be placed in a small bottle (vial) which is then set inside a slightly larger glass container, with approximately one inch of space between the bottle and the inside circumference of the outer glass container. The overall height of the outside container should be slightly higher than the vial containing the Orme / Etherium. In the space between the inner and outer containers should be packed a mixture of pure sea salt and blue green algae in a ratio of 3 parts sea salt to 1 part blue green algae. Make sure the packing is fairly tight and up to the top, but not over the little bottle containing the Orme / Etherium. Leave the Orme / Etherium within this packing for 24 to 48 hours. This process will create a stabilization of the alchemical substance. Packing in sea salt and blue green algae grounds it for better cellular integration. After this period use the Orme / Etherium in the usual manner. Use the sea salt / blue green algae mixture no more than three times before starting with a new mixture for the best results. The old mixture can be used in a warm bath for further revitalization of the system. Simeon and Maia: Would Orme / Etherium be more effective for some physical conditions (illness~disease) than others, is this primarily an individual karmic scenario or both? Tehuti: Orme / Etherium restores health in the way explained above. It allows cellular awareness of what self-healing needs to be accomplished, and which light codes are to be activated. Simeon and Maia: Would you please comment on the appropriate average dosage (if such exists), frequency of application and tell tale signs of overdose. Tehuti:Dosages can vary in the extreme. As mentioned previously muscle testing is a good means of determining individual dosage. 2 grams per day is the ceiling some people could reach in gradual increase through slow acceleration of dosage over many years before they would simply not be able to move past that point without experiencing cellular decay. Understand that even to reach this dosage, it would take perhaps 10 to 20 years of gradual dosage increase. It is not advisable. We simply wish to indicate that taking Orme / Etherium into the system can be gradually increased. Taking too much Orme / Etherium can cause an individual s soul to become desensitized to its karmic pathing, and therefor have difficulty in reincarnating. This would be a suppression of natural rhythms rather than simply no longer needing to reincarnate for spiritual evolution. Orme / Etherium contains Light codes for the Grace Factor, or freedom from karma, but because it must work within a time-limited envelope (ie our real-time physical systems), taking more than that time-limited envelope may tolerate in the moment will eventually create a collapse of the Light field, which can cause a karmic sensitivity loss that would be experienced by the individual as an inability to accept the full Grace factor, and, a lack of desire to accept their alternative karmic pathing. However, a very basic average dose would be to take about 1/64th teaspoon and dilute this in one quart of pure or Lithium water (Lithium products available from Lithium Labs ~P.O. 96 ~ San Luis Rey, CA 92068). It should not be taken undiluted under any circumstances without proper consultation. Some symptoms of an on setting overdose condition would be a decidedly bitter taste in the mouth, either on and off or continual, an unusual ringing in the ears almost like the sound of a stream of air, dizziness and vertigo, a feeling of disconnection from reality or deja-vu, lower than normal blood pressure, uncontrolled and / or unpleasant out of body experiences, changes in the spectral vision whereby one may perceive colors incorrectly, and periods of sublime euphoria leading to dangerous hallucinations. A progressed condition would be schizophrenia and its variations, including manifestation of multiple personalities as the soul tries to compartmentalize itself to prevent the total collapse of its Light field. A feeling like you have been caved in could be a collapse of one of the seven layers of your Light field. If you find yourself experiencing one or more of these symptoms it would be advisable to stop taking the Orme / Etherium for a period of up to 6 months to determine whether they are indicative of overdosage. If it is determined that the Orme / Etherium was the causative factor, I would advise that the individual not resume taking the substance for at least one year, and that when they do, that it be at greatly reduced dosage from the one that originally caused the problems. Use of the Lithium water will be helpful in reducing risk of overdose. Courtesy of: Johannine Grove Crest In The Stone Mystery School P.O.235 Crestone, CO 81131 (719) 256-4057 johgrove@rmii.com Simeon Nartoomid Maia C.M. Shamayyim-Nartoomid -=-=- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 02:53:43 -0500 From: binga@zz.com Subject: WhtGld: Subscriber Update 03/96 Subject: Subscriber Update From: binga In just three weeks, WhiteGold has grown from 26 to an astounding 90+ subscribers. As I look down the list I see: edu, gov, com and net addresses from the US, Canada and Europe. If you have been a subscriber from the beginning, you have witnessed some growing pains and a bit of evolution too. As the forum has developed, the WhiteGold FAQ has also undergone some changes. I encourage you to request (and read) the most recent WhiteGold FAQ, as it contains information previously unavailable. Send email to: WhiteGold-info@zz.com. A new service now available to WhiteGold subscribers is the WhiteGold Digest. If you would prefer to receive one compiled WhiteGold post per day, rather than having them sent sequentially (as they arrive at the domain), WhiteGold Digest is for you. To subscribe to the Digest: send email to WhiteGold-d-request@zz.com. Once you begin to receive digest posts: be sure to unsubscribe from the original forum WhiteGold-quit@zz.com, or you will be innundated with duplicate posts. At present, the Digest will be sent around midnight each day. If you prefer to receive posts sequentially (as you have been), no action is required on your part as the original forum will remain in operation. The WhiteGold File Archive (FTP Site) is continuing to grow, with Hudson's Tampa and LA appearances soon to be in the transcription phase. Still needed: Atlanta, Seattle, Vancouver, Ashland and Arizona audio tapes. If you have copies of these appearances please contact me (binga@zz.com). I will dupe them and get the originals back to you ASAP. We will then transcribe from the dupes. In addition to the Hudson transcripts and British patent, the Archive contains past posts to the forum (updated every Sunday). The site is also set up to accept uploads from WhiteGold subscribers. If you currently have reference materials not presently offered through the Archive, I encourage you to make them available to current and future subscribers by utilizing this important resource. Also, as vital information is received and posted to the forum, I generally ask the sender to upload a copy to the FTP Site. Instructions regarding the use of the FTP Site can be found in the current WhiteGold FAQ. In closing I'd like to welcome our new neighbor Adam McLean, Alchemy Forum moderator and fellow WhiteGold subscriber, to zz.com. And, a very special thanks goes out to Buzz, our domain's sysadmin, for all his hard work in providing us with such a state-of-the-art forum. I hope that you enjoy participating in the WhiteGold Forum as much as I enjoy moderating it! As always..... Strength In Wisdom binga binga@zz.com -=-=- Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:54:16 -0500 From: binga@zz.com Subject: WhtGld: George Merkle Subj: George Merkle From: Michael Hyson Hyson Mar 2, 1996 I once talked with George Merkle and I think I can track him. Will keep you posted. 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