White Gold Digest Sunday, December 19 1999 Volume 01 : Number 109 _ ____ _ __ _____ __ __ | | /| / / / (_) /____ / ___/__ / /__/ / | |/ |/ / _ \/ / __/ -_) / (_ / _ \/ / _ / |__/|__/_//_/_/\__/\__/ \___/\___/_/\_,_/ Digest In this issue: WhiteGold: ..oh no, not again.. WhiteGold: The Pharaohs WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? WhiteGold: The Monk WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? WhiteGold: The Pharaohs WhiteGold: Refocus WhiteGold: The Pharaohs \____________________________________________________________ \ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:33:18 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: ..oh no, not again.. Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:54:23 -0500 From: Jody Joy Organization: LivingMind To: WhiteGold@zz.com Subject: Re: WhiteGold: ..oh no, not again.. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <-- [Mod Note: This is what works!] Hello Buzz, I did the self-test ("quoted printable" had never been checked, but "automaticaly quote" was on, then unchecked for the test. << Mod Note: Jody, I fear that you turned off the "quoting of previous message" option. In Netscape Communicator, this is what I did.. [Edit] [Preferences] [Mail & Newsgroups] [Messages] "Send messages that use 8-bit characters" (*) As is (does not work well with some mail servers) ( ) Using the "quoted printable" MIME encoding (does not work well with some mail or newsgroups readers) Your presentation of this choice may vary with your mailer. This is what works for Communicator. Extended ASCII (8-bit characters) is text that contains oddball things that require more bits to represent than simpler ASCII. Seven bits was the standard 30 or more years ago. The high bit (of eight) was reserved to flag a binary transfer which was used to move programs and binary data, a process that had higher constraints and tougher error checking and ran like molasses. When newer fonts came out, transfers bogged down these machines which treated the text as binary. This needed to be fixed without changing the in place software. One cure was to line up the eight bit characters end on end and then cookie-cutter the string with a seven bit sliding window. Seven bit encoded transfers avoided the checking and resending and speeded up text transfers as before. This got something through the older machines, but it had to be restored on the other end by reversing the process. UUENCODE was paired (Unix to Unix ENCODE) with UUDECODE. These and other schemes are grandfathered into our mailers to send and receive attachments. Imagine what this was like years ago when the sender had to do all this by hand. Mail was typed one line at a time with a live keyboard right on the net. The message was terminated with a single "." on an empty line. Believe it or not, your mailer still does this--it simulates this command line conversation, only it does it much faster and much more accurately. But now, some dink in a three piece suit got creative and figured out yet another newer-better-improved way to mangle attachments. The only problem is that the older in place and still running software has no clue what this stuff is, so it gets lamely creative and raises my blood pressure with the mess that hits these lists. Since I don't have access to the Majordomo (the Perl program that does lists), this is a problem. It's not your fault because you can't tell what's happening. Now you know. See if you can find some parallel in your mailer to what I've shown above. Sorry for the diatribe.. =zz=. >> I did not see anything to indicate that my messages would be a further problem. Please let me know if they are, and I will be happy to help troubleshoot. Oh, I forgot, I am leaving tomorrow and won't have access to email until after the new year. Have a happy, Jody - -- Jody Joy LivingMind 1609 Inlet Court, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 471-0918 voice (703) 709-6121 fax jody@livingmind.com - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:00:22 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: The Pharaohs Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:15:41 -0800 To: WhiteGold@zz.com Subject: Re: WhiteGold: The Pharaohs This is not found to be true. The only pure bloodline is that of mine. Truth is a personal conception, relative and never absolute. So Hemet; You must be a politician. You Refute what I state as my opinion, But you use statements that appear to be slanted toward you being purer than others.( exactly who deemed your blood pure?) Put some science on here from your own research and hands on work with this material. If your not working with this material your just talking the talk. Rhetoric is cheap Lab tested work is not. This site is based on production methods of mstate material and experiences in using these materials I do however enjoy your flowery dissertation , and your perception of your station in life. May the magical sphere allow it's countenance to shine upon you as you glide through this life. Blessings to you Hemet Rev Bruce - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:03:28 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? Date: 17 Dec 1999 12:18:01 -0800 To: WhiteGold@zz.com Subject: Question Re: WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? > A gentleman who has been working with the m-state elements for much longer > than David Hudson claims that MSM interferes with them but that chondroitin > and glucosamine sulfates do not. Based on this gentleman's opinion, I would > not take MSM concurrently with the m-state. > > With kindest regards, > > Barry Carter I am not currently taking an m-state "supplement;" however I do take MSM. Does this suggest that continuing to take MSM might interfere with the monoatomics that I am taking in through my breath, my water intake and my diet? - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:17:14 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 22:23:26 -0700 To: WhiteGold@zz.com From: Barry Carter Subject: Re: WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? Dear Friend, At 09:03 PM 12/17/1999 -0800, you wrote: >> A gentleman who has been working with the m-state elements for much longer >> than David Hudson claims that MSM interferes with them but that chondroitin >> and glucosamine sulfates do not. Based on this gentleman's opinion, I would >> not take MSM concurrently with the m-state. >I am not currently taking an m-state "supplement;" however I do take MSM. >Does this suggest that continuing to take MSM might interfere with the >monoatomics that I am taking in through my breath, my water intake and my >diet? This is a good question and I don't know the answer. Some of the interference could take place in the gut and be the result of a direct interaction between the MSM and the m-state in the gut. M-state in food and air might be less likely to have this direct interaction. On the other hand, this other gentleman might be wrong. Till we get solid scientific evidence one way or the other I personally am not going to mix the two. - -- With kindest regards, Barry Carter Blue Mountain Native Forest Alliance WEB Page: http://www.triax.com/bmnfa Phone: 541-523-3357 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Help Protect America's Heritage Forests at http://www.ourforests.org - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:23:25 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: The Monk To: Subject: The Monk Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 16:10:03 +0900 [Rev Bruce] So Hemet; You must be a politician. [Hemet] This is the last adjective that would come as close as ten miles from my shadow. I am even not allowed to speak to any politician for fear of poisoning their powers of making lies and false commitments and empty promises. Yet, a rebel is what I am. It is in my blood to act as the second man who watches the deeds of the first. [Rev Bruce] You Refute what I state as my opinion, But you use statements that appear to be slanted toward you being purer than others. [Hemet] I refuted your previous opinions because that was my opinion regarding yours. Now you demonstrate your opinion regarding mine regarding yours. : ) My response is total agreement here. If I did not learn to love myself adequately I should certainly lack the experience of loving others too. He who saves a slipping foot should be well attached to the immovable rock. Yet, my words were spun from ASCII codes. I did not read them for you. I did not interpret them for you. You simply made your mind on your own and spun the meanings from your memorized experiences. Truth is a personal conception, relative and never absolute. [Rev Bruce] ( exactly who deemed your blood pure?) [Hemet] Who else! Me certainly without denial. : ) Again. Truth is a personal conception, relative and never absolute. Firstly, neither me nor anyone can prove anyone's bloodline to be pure. This, from a scientific perspective would require, at least, blood or tissue samples from all the individuals on that line of blood. My personal conception is a powerful link that binds me to my ancestors without failure. Since this is how I feel then this is how it is. Purity is in the consciousness and not in the test tube. Secondly, my family tree had been inherited written on papyrus in Glyphs and Demotics and Greek and Arabic on paper pages from bibles. I copied them at their sources scattered up the tree. Thirdly, what is the criterion of purity in a species known to be heterogamic anyway? Deny my claim while you apply your reasoning on that of the Pharaohs. : ) [Rev Bruce] Put some science on here from your own research and hands on work with this material. [Hemet] This is what I have been doing with the ORMUS group list. We are waiting for some serious results from experiments conducted by our team. August explained that there shall be some delays. : ( [Rev Bruce] If your not working with this material your just talking the talk. [Hemet] You are absolutely right. : ) [Rev Bruce] Rhetoric is cheap Lab tested work is not. [Hemet] We agree again. : ) [Rev Bruce] This site is based on production methods of mstate material and experiences in using these materials. [Hemet] Do not ask me to be your Juliet Rev Romeo, at least until I am sure of my love and that that is the way I wish to die. : ) [Rev Bruce] I do however enjoy your flowery dissertation , and your perception of your station in life. May the magical sphere allow it's countenance to shine upon you as you glide through this life. Blessings to you Hemet Rev Bruce [Hemet] I am jubilant to have appeased you. : ) And stay assured that gliding is not one of my talents. I am a humble desert pedestrian who walks life in a very slaw but sure meditation. : ) : ) Kind regards. Hemet - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:27:51 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:09:31 EST Subject: Re: WhiteGold: does sulphur pin ? To: WhiteGold@zz.com Will M-state react in a negative way with any other "supplements" I would like to know as I take a good many. - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:35:41 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: The Pharaohs To: Subject: Re: WhiteGold: The Pharaohs Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 10:55:35 -0000 Hemetis claims >Yet, "the bloodline of the holy grail" is not a history book and is full of mistakes. I would like to know if he can point out exactly what these mistakes are and what evidence he can offer to prove that they are indeed mistakes. Laurence Gardner who wrote this book and the follow up to it (I can't remember the correct title because I don't have it here to hand at the moment but it's the one about the Sumerians etc) comes across as an extremely knowledgeable and honest scholar. I also believe that there is more to Laurence Gardner than meets the eye. So come on Hemetis whoever you are. You speak with a very high and mighty attitude so give us some proof for your claims and perhaps some history of your credentials to support your claims. Laurence Gardner isn't here to defend himself. Regards, Tony Mackenzie. - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 00:49:59 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: Refocus To: References: <385B4586.287CF7@zz.com> Subject: Refocus Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 13:56:27 -0600 You know I''m really getting tired of the assorted "pissing contests" that have sprung up on the forum. I do not have the blessing to be able to work with the m-state production techniques first hand, though I have ingested it. I don't have some high great pedigree or have been schooled in the greatest universities. I'm a Heinz 57 American: Russian-German, English, Irish, and a little Native American. I have a wife and a little boy with a baby girl due in January. THAT is my blessing and I look forward to each day in this existance. One thing about the past...it is that it is in the past! Learn from mistakes, get over it, pay attention to the details and don't sweat the little things. There is potential in this forum, I know in my heart what can be and what it can be in the world and I know that this technology is a way for it to happen. If you want to be known for who you are get your own site and sing your own praises, save the forum for concrete pertainable information that gets us somewhere instead of all the "four wheeling" that has been going on. I know when things don't move as fast as one would like one can get diverted, so let's refocus on why we joined in the first place---ORMES. JESTER - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 01:04:34 -0800 From: Buzz Lange Subject: WhiteGold: The Pharaohs From: googong@interact.net.au Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:27:04 +1100 To: WhiteGold@zz.com Subject: Re: WhiteGold: The Pharaohs >Hemetis claims > > >Yet, "the bloodline of the holy grail" is not a history book and is full of >mistakes. > >I would like to know if he can point out exactly what these mistakes are and >what evidence he can offer to prove that they are indeed mistakes. Laurence >Gardner who wrote this book and the follow up to it (I can't remember the >correct title because I don't have it here to hand at the moment but it's >the one about the Sumerians etc) comes across as an extremely knowledgeable >and honest scholar. I also believe that there is more to Laurence Gardner >than meets the eye. You are referring to the subsequent book "Genesis of the Grail Kings". Earlier this month on the WhiteGold forum I wrote the following about this book: "whilst it is about the white gold powder in the past, [it] has major errors in it and he could have written a better book. The Nexus lectures covering this material have much the same errors." Even though I haven't read it, I too have doubts about the book "Bloodline of the Holy Grail" and I'm not a religious person. I also wrote earlier this month that "any further discussion of this I would prefer to be done in private e-mail". >So come on Hemetis whoever you are. You speak with a very high and mighty >attitude so give us some proof for your claims and perhaps some history of >your credentials to support your claims. Laurence Gardner isn't here to >defend himself. If he was on the Internet, he would be getting some heated e-mails and spending a lot of time with e-mail and not getting on with the job of writing books and doing lectures. I do wish that he was on the Internet myself so that I could carry on an e-mail correspondence with him as I'm not a formal letter writer. I have met Sir Laurence Gardner myself and pointed out a horrible error in his latest book to him as he was autographing my copy and he agreed with me. This was after a lecture of Sir Laurence Gardner at which I was sitting next to one of my few very deeply spiritual friends and he made the following remarks about Sir Laurence Gardner: "his aura shows nothing bad and he knows more than he is prepared to say in writing because he is in this to make money from writing and he doesn't want to upset this source of revenue for himself". >Regards, > >Tony Mackenzie. - -- Bill Alford googong@interact.net.au http://users.interact.net.au/~pwaa - -=-=- http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb Reply to: WhiteGold@zz.com zz.com originates in White Control: WhiteGold-request@zz.com Mojave Desert CA USA Gold message Subscribe or Unsubscribe midnight!west Forum Moderator: buzz@zz.com sysadmin: zz@zz.com (c)1999 ------------------------------ End of White Gold Digest V1 #109 ******************************** __________________________________________________________________/ / To unsubscribe from the White Gold mailing list digest, send the command: unsubscribe whitegold-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@hughes.net" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- . . . |\/| _. . _ ._. _| _ ._ _ _ Is a service provided by | |(_] |(_)[ (_](_)[ | )(_) Hughes Electronic Commerce. ._| http://www.hughes.net/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-