The document, "Quest for the Philosopher's Stone" will need  periodic updates as more knowledge is gained about ORMUS. That  is the purpose of this addendum. Here we can post safety advice, short announcements, and other updates.

Index

General
Safety/Warning
Wet Method
Dry Method
Boiling Gold Method
Sources

General

PERCENTAGE OF M-STATE ELEMENTS IN PRECIPITATE FROM VARIOUS SEA WATERS
 

DEAD SEA SALT MIGHT HAVE NO GILCREST PRECIPITATE

One person tried the following experiment using Masada Dead Sea salt:

1. Made a batch of ORMUS using the wet method, going up to pH 10.5.
2. Let the precipitate settle and removed the clear liquid on top.
3. Adding le water, ran the clear liquid up to pH 12.

Nothing else precipitated, showing that there is no Gilcrest precipitate (from toxic metals) in Masada salt.

This significant experiment needs to be replicated.
 

M-STATE CONTENT OF VARIOUS SEA SALTS

4 liters of water (almost a gallon), mixed with 250 ml (about 1 cup) of the following salts, produced the following yield of wet precipitate:
 

After the Masada Dead Sea salt precipitates out, there is clear liquid left on top. If you put this liquid back into the stainless steel pot, and add lye water to it (up to pH 10), you'll get even more precipitate, probably due to the high concentration of salt. 1/4 cup of starting material in 1 liter of distilled water are suggested amounts for experimenting.

The Dead Sea Products salt is probably comparable to the Masada brand in yield. The Masada yield was measured after settling several days. The Dead Sea Products salt, and the others, were measured after settling overnight.
 

YIELD OF PRECIPITATE FROM 1 GALLON (4 LITERS) OF VARIOUS SOURCE WATERS

BOILING POINT AND ACID SOLUBILITY OF CERTAIN ORMUS ELEMENTS
 

Using the information above it should be possible to devise a parting procedure to isolate m-gold, m-rhodium and m-iridium from each other and the rest of the m-state elements. We know of no one who has done this yet.

Safety/Warning

SAFETY ADVICE FOR THE DRY METHOD

Target Glacial Rock Dust contains substantial amounts of aluminum which plants can tolerate, but is toxic to people when extracted with lye. Agricultural-grade powdered limestone from  some sources contains sufficient lead and/or arsenic to be a potential hazard. This form of limestone should not be used for human consumption without testing.
 

WARNING ABOUT GEMATRIA PRODUCTS

There seems to be a conflict between certain products of the Gematria Products company (http://www.gematria.com/) and the m-state elements. Four people who were consuming both reported symptoms including headaches, nausea, dizziness and hives which ceased when they discontinued the use of either the m-state or the Gematria Products. The products which were mentioned were AloeMEM Gems(TM) and Laser Blue (TM).
 

A CAUTION RELATED TO DEAD SEA WATER

Some folks get diarrhea from all the m-state magnesium in the m-state produced from the Dead Sea water. The percentage of magnesium can be reduced in the final product if you pull the pH back down after taking it up to 10.78.

WHAT TO AVOID WHEN USING ORMUS

Certain things "pin" ORMES to their metallic state; they will de-spin the monoatomic Platinum-group elements into their metallic form. These should be avoided:

Short wavelength ultraviolet light
Nitric oxide, such as in smog (not nitrous oxide)
Sulfides (S03), such as in some salad dressings
Carbon, such as in burned food
Carbon monoxide, such as in smog

Source: Hudson interview (with Binga), June 28, 1996,
WhiteGold@zz.com
 

Wet Method

WET METHOD DETAILS

The goal is to get the precipitate between pH 8.5 and 10.78. After you get the precipitate, the goal is to wash it well. Washing the precipitate will take the pH down closer to 8.5. The m-state is in the precipitate. You can take the pH down to 4 or 5 and the washed precipitate will re-dissolve but the m-state will still be in the liquid.

When you drip lye water into water containing the m-state elements, you create a small area around the drip where the pH is higher than the rest of the water. This local area of high pH will precipitate more quickly than the rest of the water. This is what you are seeing when you see the littlecloud of precipitate which forms around the area where the lye touches the water.

The Dead Sea salt is a good salt to experiment with since it produces so much precipitate. Other source material might not seem to produce the little cloud of precipitate around the lye water drips but it really is there. You can't see it because it is not as thick as with the Dead Sea water.
 

A SUGGESTED WET METHOD FOR OCEAN WATER

1. Filter the water on site.
2. When you get the water to your work place, boil the water for 15 minutes to sterilize it. Boiling also speeds the reaction by increasing the movement of the atoms in the water.
3. Immediately after boiling, add lye water drops as in the WET method.
4. Wash the precipitate four times.
5. If you want to store the precipitate for a long time, boil again and place in nested containers.
 

Dry Method

CONTAINER MATERIAL

Stainless steel and glass sauce pans are fairly safe if you don't take the pH too low or too high. When boiling at high pH (12+) for long periods of time, high-temperature plastic like Polypropelyne (PP), High Density Polyethylene (HDPE) or Teflon (PTFE) is recommended. Glass is NOT recommended for the Dry Method or Boiling Gold Method because the lye water will etch silica from the glass and the silica will contaminate your precipitate.
 

Boiling Gold Method

SUGGESTION FOR THE BOILING GOLD METHOD

When you put the gold and lye solution in a PTFE or HDPE bottle for boiling, here are two ways to do it:

1. Fill the bottle half full, squeeze out the air, and tighten the cap. This lets the bottle expand when heated.

2. Bring the surrounding water to a boil with the bottle open. When the lye solution has started boiling, tighten the cap and continue boiling.

Boil for the desired time in a crock pot. Replace the water in the crock pot as needed. The lye water in the bottle does not boil away so it does not need replenishing.
 

Sources

SOURCES FOR DEAD SEA SALTS

It's not necessary to go to the Dead Sea to get its salt for the dry method. Try Dead Sea bath salts from a health, bath, or beauty aids store. The unscented varieties are the purest. Masada is a popular brand.

You can buy Dead Sea salts directly from Bill Kuluva at Dead Sea Minerals in NY (1-800-DEAD SEA).

1.5 kg of salt yields about 5 liters of precipitate after Mg(OH)2 is removed.
 

GOOD SOURCE MATERIAL FOR THE WET METHOD

Ayruveda Plus sells a clean, filtered concentrate of Salt Lake water, which is an excellent producer of m-state precipitate.

Ayruveda Plus 1-800-588-4108
http://ayurvedaplus.com/
richard@ayurvedaplus.com
 

SOURCE FOR BUFFER SOLUTIONS TO TEST pH PAPER

The accuracy of pH paper depends on how, where, and how long it has been stored. You can check its accuracy with buffer solutions. Here is one source:

http://www.hannainst.com/products/chemical/chemical.htm
 

MORE CHEMICAL/LAB EQUIPMENT SUPPLIERS

http://www.ebay.com
http://www.labx.com
http://www.sciplus.com
Hagenow Laboratories Inc., 1202 Washington St., Manitowoc, WI 54220, tel. (902) 683-3339

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